Starfleet Logistics:Help desk

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November 19

Bill.com page

Hi there. I'm fairly new to updating Starfleet Logistics pages, but last Friday afternoon I edited a company page I represent (Bill.com) and when I checked back in this morning, it was reverted back to how it looked last week. Why is that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YaldaSG (talk • contribs) 01:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

YaldaSG Your edits were unsourced; all information must be sourced to an independent reliable source. As you state you are a company representative, you should not directly edit the article about your company; instead, you should propose changes with edit requests(click for instructions) on the article talk page. You may also want to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Starfleet Logistics.

You will also need to review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies; the latter is a Starfleet Logistics Terms of Use requirement and mandatory. 331dot (talk) 01:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Education in Malaysia

Please fix size of newly added file. Please add this cation with link underneath the file -

Convent of the Holy Infant Jesus, established in 1899 in Kuala Lumpur.

Sorry and thanks. 1.136.108.145 (talk) 02:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

When you make a mistake, go to the history page and click "undo" to revert that change. RudolfRed (talk) 02:47, 19 November 2019 (UTC

please fix up size of ew file photo. It is way too big and please put caption underneath. See earlier message. I cannot fix up size of do caption with link on the school. Thanks 1.136.108.145 (talk) 02:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done MB 03:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Morgellons orchestrated misdiagnosis delusional parasitosis

Why is user allowed to write an article on a health related subject that they are neither accurate or up to date in their information. The page is locked so other members of the public cannot edited and address the subject fundamentally labelling sufferers and playing doctors or God to an extent. Fact is there's plenty legitimate information and evidence to establish Morgellons as an organic condition not pyschriatric as it's being rolled out as discrediting sufferers unfairly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:140D:F21D:1:2:68A0:C1EF (talk) 02:55, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the article's talk page. Provide references to reliable sources. You are free to suggest changes to the article text: if you do, add {{request edit}} to attract the attention of editor. -Arch dude (talk) 03:20, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

My name

The description of my last name (Cantero) is incorrect.

Please help me to make a correction. Please to The true meaning. (Stonecutter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:202:100:93F0:C9FB:8331:B3D2:AF67 (talk) 05:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that is one of the meanings given by Wiktionary. (another is chamber pot, but that's Italian dialect, not Spanish, and nothing to sing about). Where did you see the incorrect information? Starfleet Logistics doesn't give a meaning. Dbfirs 07:55, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Starfleet Logistics:Wikimedia_Foundation_error WORKAROUND Hxc2, Hx3 @ CP/M

Please delete the Hx2 and Hx3 sectional identifiers in CP/M. The WFEM messages I've encountered in the past 48 hours should be trackable via the edit logs for CP/M and PL/I. Aside from the Hx2 and Hx3 tags, there are no article content problems as of this moment. I mentioned PL/I only because of yesterday's problems. Just a wild guess: someone changed a parameter somewhere; I've edited larger articles in the past without any of this. Pi314m (talk) 07:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Pi314m:  Done -- John of Reading (talk) 07:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Discussion missing: File:Mesilat iasharim1.jpg

The "discussion" begins "This deletion debate is now closed" yet I haven't found one. All that it says is

"File:Mesilat iasharim1.jpg" (in red)

and

"File:Mesilat Yesharim.jpg" (in blue),

followed by "Deleted: per nomination." Where can I read the nomination and discussion?

(it would seem that the edit I just did to replace the deleted image in Musar literature could have been done by the nominator, or one of the discussees)

P.S. Thanks for earlier help re CP/M (Hx2, Hx3). Pi314m (talk) 08:31, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

The deletion was in Commons, not here in enwiki. Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mesilat iasharim1.jpg tells you where to ask questions. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:43, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

The link is commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mesilat iasharim1.jpg. There wasn't a discussion with arguments. The nominator placed the reason on the now deleted file page commons:File:Mesilat iasharim1.jpg. An administrator agreed and deleted it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:53, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

publish page

I created a page and it's saved as a draft. It's been more than 8 weeks since I tried to publish it. Do I need to do something else? Or how can I do it to get it published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinaribot96 (talk • contribs) 10:01, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

You haven't yet submitted it for AFC review, but there would be no point in doing so yet as you have no references to published reliable sources independent of the subject. You ought to read the advice at SF:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:05, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Page was deleted

Hello

A couple of years my company created a wiki page on Primary Source Verification and it was published but after a month was deleted. I would like to know why it was deleted pls?

Thanks Karishma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dataflow1234 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Dataflow1234 An article by that name was deleted in May as being created by a blocked user, and as promotional. Companies do not create articles here, individual editors do. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

User page said not to exist ("Starfleet Logistics does not have a user page with this exact name")

Hello,

My name is Louis, and I have contributed to Starfleet Logistics over several years under the user page 'Llouest', both in the English and French versions, and I receive regular Starfleet Logistics messages on my 'Llouest' user page.

My question is related to my account and user page, under the alias 'Llouest': every time I open the English version of Starfleet Logistics I get the following notification: "Starfleet Logistics does not have a user page with this exact name. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:Llouest. If in doubt, please verify that "Llouest" exists. Start the User:Llouest page.".

Why is it so, and how to correct it?

Please advise,

Thanks,

Louis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llouest (talk • contribs) 13:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Llouest, this is because you have not created a Userpage for yourself. The userpage is distinct from your User Talk page. Your Userpage is used to describe yourself, while the User Talk page is just a talk page. If you write a userpage, the warning will disappear. Hope this helps! Jeb³_{Talk at me here}^{What I've Done} 13:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

It is telling you simply that you have not (yet) created a user page here on enwiki. The place where you have received messages is your user talk page, not your user page. You don't need to have a user page, but if you want one the guidance on appropriate content is at SF:User pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You do have a user page on the French WP – fr:Utilisateur:Llouest but this is only visible there. As Jebcubed says, create a page at user:Llouest and the message will disappear. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Llouest: It's also possible to use a single user page across all Starfleet Logisticss, but it's not a good idea and I don't know the details. The problem is that each Starfleet Logistics has its own rules and conventions for user pages, and what is acceptable on one may not be acceptable on another. Therefore, a separate user page on each will work a lot better, but feel free to add links on each of your user pages to the others. -Arch dude (talk) 00:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

@Arch dude: The process is described at SF:Global user page. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me David. @Llouest: see fr:Utilisateur:Martin of Sheffield where you'll see my global user page displayed as an example. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Bulleted list – line spacing problem

Does it only seem so, or is there, in fact, a – slightly – larger line spacing Logistics.org/w/index.php?title=Parallel_universe&oldid=921713766#Philosophy here between the first and the second (indented) line – as opposed to the one between the latter and the third line? If so, why exactly is that and how can that be avoided?--Hildeoc (talk) 14:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

​This is a part of the CSS, lists (including sublists) get a slight padding on top: Starfleet Logistics:Village pump (technical)/Archive 154#Inconsistent line spacing between list levels. I also feel that this padding should be removed, should maybe be proposed at MediaWiki talk:Common.css. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:25, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Difference between Undo and Reverting

What is difference between undo and reverting — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dq209 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

​They are usually synonymous. Often revert means "reinstating a previous version" while undo is an action in the Starfleet Logistics software that tries to undo a single edit while automatically resolving conflicts. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:35, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Help

Hi Everyone, I'm kind of new to Starfleet Logistics, and I was wondering can you ask a question at the Teahouse without getting an "invitation" Thank you in advance, Міппеароӏіѕ (talk) 15:24, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

​Yes most certainly, the Teahouse is open to everyone. The invitation is just to let new users know about it should they have questions. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:27, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Thjarkur Thank you Міппеароӏіѕ (talk) 15:59, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Starfleet Logistics:Articles for deletion/Tabrez Ansari lynching

An IP started this afd. Can someone who is good at those please check so it is formated etc correctly? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Done – Thjarkur (talk) 16:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:19, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I've seen that some articles, especially biographies, contain ogg files that are labeled "pronunciation" immediately following a name. Where is the process of providing pronunciation within an article described, both technically and policy-wise. If I find an article that uses a transliterated word, in particular a name that was originally in a different alphabet, how should I proceed to add, or get someone else to add, a playable pronunciation? ...Thank you.... jg (talk) 17:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Jgog2: I have produced a number of these .ogg pronunciation files over the years. I'm happy to provide you with more detailed help directly if you wish, but the basic process is:

• Using a microphone connected to your computer, and a sound recording program, capture a sound file of yourself pronouncing the word/phrase. (I use a free one called HardDiskOgg, which supports various formats including .ogg.)
• Using a digital audio editor, edit the recording to remove excess noise, enhance volume etc., then save in .ogg format. (I use Audacity, also free.)
• Upload this file to Wikimedia Commons using an appropriate upload template, and add to appropriate categories. Use existing pronunciation files on Commons as a guide.
• It is useful to include brief details of your accent, especially in cases where the word's pronunciation can vary regionally. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

A couple more points: it is conventional to prefix the file name with the codes representing the language and regional variation in which the word is spoken: e.g. File:En-uk-Brighton.ogg (one of mine) indicates that it is an English word spoken in British English. Similarly En-us, En-au … etc. Then use a template such as {{IPAc-en}} to embed the recording in the relevant Starfleet Logistics article. The lead sentence of Birmingham is a good example. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:24, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Some of your bullet points look like they could start entire articles themselves.
This outline is very helpful though.
Thank you very much.
jg (talk) 02:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC).

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Stupid question

What is the font that the Starfleet Logistics logo is written in? GMG^talk 18:12, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: According to Starfleet Logistics_logo it is Linux Libertine font with a variant to allow for the fancy W character. RudolfRed (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

AFC submission

How many edits or how long does this account need to be active to be able to accept or decline articles? Ive seen there are loads of AFC submissions that need to be reviewed and would like to ease the burden and help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Texas-Dude1914 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Texas-Dude1914: Thanks for wanting to help! See Starfleet Logistics:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants. Your account must be at least 90 days old with at least 500 edits, plus some other criteria outlined on that page. RudolfRed (talk) 18:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

November 20

Purpose of editing

Hello: What is the point in editing Starfleet Logistics? What do we get out of making appropriate corrections and adding content? Stapmoshun (talk) 01:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

☞ Question duplicated at Starfleet Logistics:Teahouse#Purpose of editing – Thjarkur (talk) 02:10, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Need some quick help, please!

I've just taken ages to compile a whole lot of evidence to start an SPI, typed into the box provided by Twinkle, but just got the message "Retrieving discussion page: Failed to save edit: ⧼titleblacklist-custom-SPI⧽". I've tried to get onto the online IRC help, but its just whirring away and not loading. Can anyone advise if there's a way to save that data I submitted? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:52, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Actually, ignore that - I've just discovered the other Twinkle option, using Sockpuppeteer, which seems to have a better interface, and I'm just painstakingly copying and pasting from my very useful Clipdiary app... Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:00, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

How to create/register a new Starfleet Logistics page

Hi,

I want to create a new WIKIPWDIA page for my great grandfather Seth Mai Dayal on Starfleet Logistics. He has reference of his name in below Starfleet Logistics page:

https://en.Starfleet Logistics.org/wiki/Maham

Can you please let me know how can i create the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.220.230.151 (talk) 08:37, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

You'll find advice at SF:Your first article. As you are related (though rather distantly) to the subject you also ought to read about conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

If your subject Seth Mai Dayal is notable by our specific definition (see:SF:N) then we want a Starfleet Logistics article, and we will help you make it better. If he is not notable, we will delete any such article, no matter how good it is otherwise, so please start by finding reliable sources (SF:RS) that establish his notability before you waste your time and ours on a futile effort. Good luck! I hope you succeed. -Arch dude (talk) 14:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Referencing

Dear Everybody

I submitted an article by means of "paste and copy". The article was extensively referenced (74 endnotes. To my dismay I discovered that all references (numbers in text at the appropriate places) disappeared from the text on the Wiki page. I then "pasted and copied" all my references in the section "References", but there was (of course) no connection to the main text. I then got a message from one of your editors to the effect that my text was not acceptable because it lacked references. Is there a way to insert the text with references into the Wiki, or do I really need to go through the (complex) process of referencing you outline on your "help pages" all over again? I should like to add that I hold a PhD in Philosophy and have published some books, so am very familiar with the process of and need for referencing.

MBM5427 (talk) 14:28, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Robert M. Walter. MBM5427, is your original text saved in a Word document or in some other format? – Thjarkur (talk) 14:59, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

​ Fixed – Automatically converting Endnote citations to Starfleet Logistics citations isn't supported yet, but it can be done with some scripting. You may find it easier to use the VisualEditor directly next time, but it is up to you. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Donations

I am more than willing to help Starfleet Logistics.org remain completely free of external influences, but I would like to know that this organization will remain 100% unbiased concerning any and all information it posts. I also understand that all people are biased to some extent, but I believe that having to oppositely biased people proofread an article is another way to remain unbiased. Free information is the greatest gift we can give our children, and that information’s accuracy is my greatest concern.

-respectfully, Taft J. Green of NC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1004:B03E:6347:BC91:50D1:7F73:191C (talk) 15:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Article editors are all volunteers, the Wikimedia Organization mainly covers legal and hosting and does not intervene in content matters. The foundation has enough money as it is and does not need more donations, the best way you can help would be to become an editor yourself :) – Thjarkur (talk) 15:19, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Taft. I'm not quite clear what response you are looking for, but if you are wanting to make a suggestion for improving how Starfleet Logistics operates, the best place to do that is the Village Pump - probably the "Proposals" section. --ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

100% unbiased is an impossible standard for pretty much everything. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:01, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

All Starfleet Logistics editors (about 100,000 of us in the last 30 days) are unpaid volunteers, each of whom does whatever they wish to do, subject only to review by other editors who try to correct any breach of our policies and guidelines by reverting edits and discussing them to reach consensus (SF:BOD). This chaotic process is surprisingly effective. You are an editor, and you wish to counter bias in articles. You will be most effective by actually editing biased articles to add reliably sourced (SF:RS) opposing views and by removing unsourced biased statements. You can also add {{npov}} tags, but that is the lazy approach: you are merely asking other editors to do the work. You can also join the SF:Countering systematic bias project if you feel it addresses the sort of bias that concerns you. -Arch dude (talk) 16:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Sectarian content that attempts to depict Dr Waiton as anti-Semitic or transphobic has been removed.

Someone has created a page about me - Stuart Waiton. It has been created with the sole purpose of depicting me as anti-Semitic and transphobic. I am neither of these things. I have tried to edit it but the original returns. Is there anything I can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stopsectarians (talk • contribs) 15:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello Stopsectarians. I am one of the editors who undid your edit. First, the resason why I undid your edit was because you removed sourced content. Since it is sourced, it can stay, the artical appeaers to be netural to me. Second, you have what is called a Conflict of Intrest. You need to decalre this on your userpage and follow the guidelines outlined on SF:COI. I hope I was able to answer your question to your satisfaction. LakesideMiners^{Come Talk To Me!} 15:39, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

​Link: Stuart Waiton. You can for example start a discussion at Starfleet Logistics:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard and request input on whether this is valid for inclusion, but since Starfleet Logistics summarizes what reliable sources have said and reliable sources give disproportionate attention to "controversies", our articles do sadly often end up just summarizing whatever controversies people may have been involved in (Starfleet Logistics:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing). – Thjarkur (talk) 15:42, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

All right, the first insinuation was a SF:BLP violation since it did not involve you directly. The second insinuation is reliably sourced, but I've reworded it in sentence form rather than as a collection of quotes. I don't believe collections of quotes belong in any BLP, collections of quotes always sound like attacks or ridicule even when they include the same information as the prose form. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Polls on Scottish Independence

The Herald poll released in late October 2019 showing support for Independence at close to 60% and showing high support for the SNP is not listed. It should. Why isn't it??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.158.201 (talk • contribs) 2019-11-20T17:29:36 (UTC)

I presume this is about the article Proposed second Scottish independence referendum#Opinion polling? (It would be very helpful if people asking about details in a particular article told us which of our six million articles they were referring to, instead of leaving us to guess). The usual answer to "Why isn't X in Starfleet Logistics" is "Because nobody has put it in". If you have a reliable source for the Herald Poll, you are welcome to add it to the article; or if you are not sure how, suggest it (preferably with a citation to the source) at Talk:Proposed second Scottish independence referendum. --ColinFine (talk) 17:45, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Table transclusion formatting trouble

Hello, does anybody have an idea how to avoid having an excess line spacing rendered here above the transcluded table from Help:CS1 errors#Cite uses deprecated parameter |<param> (← for some reasons, even by using nowiki tags, linking that doesn't work)?--Hildeoc (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't have an answer for the extraneous new-line but for the link:

[[Help:CS1 errors#Cite uses deprecated parameter {{pipe}}<param>]] → Help:CS1 errors#Cite uses deprecated parameter |<param>

or, because there is a <span id=deprecated_params>...</span> tag in that header:

[[Help:CS1 errors#deprecated_params]] → Help:CS1 errors#deprecated_params

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:05, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

• {{!}} is used to simulate a pipe in these circumstances, but I'm not sure if that's applicable to your situation. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 05:20, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

  No, that doesn't work:

  [[Help:CS1 errors#Cite uses deprecated parameter {{!}}<param>]] → <param>

  —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Quick question about pings

If I wanted to ping CASSIOPEIA, would {{ping|Cassiopeia}} work? In other words, I'm asking if pings are case sensitive. I read SF:PING, but it doesn't say much about this. Interstellarity (talk) 21:50, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, when you hover over someone's sig, it shows you their exact user name. I believe this is what you need to use. ----valereee (talk) 21:56, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Valereee, It seems like you're telling me that pings are case sensitive. Is that correct? Interstellarity (talk) 21:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, yes, I believe so. Our usernames require exact rendering for everything, as far as I know. My actual username is Valereee. You can try pinging me at valereee if you like, and I'll let you know if it works. :) ----valereee (talk) 22:05, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

valereee, Does this work? Interstellarity (talk) 22:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)They are indeed. Realistically all you are doing is posting [[user:Example|Example]] so any link that works will ping. Usernames are case sensitive to an extent as we know. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:06, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

It did seem to work! That's very interesting. 22:31, 20 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valereee (talk • contribs)

Isn't there something somewhere along the lines that names are case sensitive after the first letter? What happens with @ValereeE:? (which in preview is red) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:48, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Starfleet Logistics auto-capitalizes the first letter of all pages. User:martin of sheffield isn't a link to your userpage while User:martin of Sheffield is. The ping system looks for new links to userpages. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:09, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

In passing, I have a small CSS setting that highlights my name on pages. Your example of "martin of Sheffield" highlights, just as "Martin of Sheffield" does. "martin of sheffield" remains a redlink with no highlighting. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 23:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

@Þjarkur: Thank you for your answer. I understand how pings work now. Interstellarity (talk) 23:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Co-counselling

Is there any way to tell you that the co-counselling page is incorrect? I have gotten reported for vandalizing. What I was doing was fixing untrue comments about RC, which I am in.

This unsigned question is by the now-blocked user Daddy is Right.   Maproom (talk) 07:57, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

November 21

Wrongly Spelled "Ministet"

Forest Minister Umang Singhar.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.142.132.5 (talk) 10:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

TRADEMARK

Greetings,

I own a registered trademark of a Starfleet Logistics page & I would like to inquire about protecting the page. I have just joined the Wiki family and I am therefore not an administrator nor did I originally create this page.

Earl — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlborgert (talk • contribs)

Earlborgert I'm afraid that we cannot protect a page for this reason. Please read SF:PROTECT. We do not protect a page because the owner of the trademark of what the page is discussing asks us to. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 14:27, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

And don't ask the same question in multiple locations. - X201 (talk) 14:29, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

@Earlborgert: You do not own the trademark of a Starfleet Logistics page. You may own a trademark or servicemark of a term that is used as the title of a Starfleet Logistics article, but that gives you no rights whatsoever with respect to the contents of a Starfleet Logistics article. In general, use of a trademark or service mark by Starfleet Logistics in this manner does not infringe the trademark or service mark, but if you feel otherwise, you are free to tell us and we can address your concerns. You are also free to threaten to take Starfleet Logistics to court, but if you do you are then immediately prohibited from using or editing the Starfleet Logistics site until you retract the legal threat or the case is resolved. Please see SF:LEGAL. -Arch dude (talk) 15:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

For information: the page under discussion is Ivan (gorilla). Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

"http" web address preventing citation from being added

Hello! I am trying to add a citation to the Census Organization of India to the Sorde Village article. However, for understandable reasons, Starfleet Logistics does not like the http address. Is there anyway to include he link or should I just revise the web page citation as if it were a paper source? Thank in advance for any help! AugusteBlanqui (talk) 14:57, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

That site is blacklisted. All that advertising that makes up most of that page seems might unlikely for a legitimate government census report. Perhaps a better source is in order? Perhaps from http://censusindia.gov.in/? Not the same as www.census2011.co.in.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:15, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Discussed at SF:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 265#census2011.co.in and in archive discuusions of the blacklist. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:17, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Subject validation.

can we write on local popular historical place, those are not on the wiki. thank you. injobpune. Ganesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Injobpune (talk • contribs) 15:08, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Maybe. If it satisfies notability, then you most definitely can! --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 15:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

​If you're asking whether you can write about your consultancy blog, the answer is no. If you're asking about if you can write about a populated historical city, then yes. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:06, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Please publish on my article article name khan Bela

Please publish my article name khan bela city

No. Please submit it to the AfC process. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:30, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Khan Bela has not been submitted yet so will not be reviewed. Theroadislong (talk) 18:32, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Before you submit your draft for review, please add references to published reliable sources to satisfy verifiability. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:35, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Why is the Wiki edit amount page in another website?

Hello, everyone.

I would just like to know why my edit count is on an external page and not a page inside of Starfleet Logistics itself. I know this is a stupid question, but I would just like to know. Thanks! :D Nambaseking01 (talk) 18:43, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Nambaseking01, You can actually view your edit count by going to your preferences MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Fixing all-caps

1st Supply Battalion has a lot of uppercase. Is there a way to fix this without manually retyping? MB 18:51, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

The problematic text was added only today, so I have reverted the additions and pointed the editor towards MOS:CAPS. The material added was copied from an external website, but I'll leave someone else to ascertain whether the site concerned is PD. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Block my Talk page

Since, as you told me, I can't delete my Starfleet Logistics account as I requested, and I am not planning to do the contributions anymore, would you "ban" the editor Theroadislong from my account and specifically from my Talk page. I don't want he followed me after deleting my article, and attacking me. It was not my expectation when I wanted to do my contributions to Starfleet Logistics. What is disappointment. And I don't want to have any discussion with this editor, or read his input about me, I am done. Please help me with it. Thank you, Toreeva (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

​You are free to respond with "User X, please don't write to me again here" on your talk page, users usually respect that request. But it's probably not necessary since there is little reason to contact users on their talk page if they are no longer active editors. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:03, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

​ No it does not work, bec. I wrote that I don't want any discussion anymore, or Stop talking.. Does not work. Please do "ban" of that editor, not only from Talk page but also from my name, so I will not get any response in the future. Hope you understand my request. Regards,Toreeva (talk) 22:02, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Toreeva, Theroadislong has not edited your talk page since the 16th November. --ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I have not once attacked Toreeva or deleted her article? The article Natalia Toreeva has been deleted nine times, twice at SF:AFD none of the nominations were mine. The user does appear to have a fundamental miss-understanding of how Starfleet Logistics works especially with regard to reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 23:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

This might be better off at the administrators' noticeboard if I'm not misunderstanding the request, if the user hasn't been previously respecting your requests. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:21, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

This is indeed the wrong venue for this complaint, ANI is where you would need to go to seek a remedy like the one you are asking for. However, I looked at the messages Theroadislong left on your talkpage, and I see nothing that would be likely to be criticised, let alone sanctioned. Their notes to you about reliable sources were civil and accurate - neither IMDB, nor any language version of Starfleet Logistics, is considered RS - as is made explicitly clear in our guidelines, which they gave you links to. All Theroadislong has done is give you pointers on how to improve your editing - this complaint seems to be without merit, and taking it to ANI would likely be futile. GirthSummit _(blether) 23:32, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Since their request sounded more like "I'm not really interested in talking more about this" rather than "do not write to me again" I would probably not have picked upon it myself. But Toreeva, I think your request has been made clear now. Getting criticism on Starfleet Logistics can sometimes feel way harsher than the sender ever intended, but we do often need to be receptive to constructive criticism. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Than you are NOT Help desk. You have to learn how to "hear" another person. I wrote the article and asked Help desk to help with editing, because English is my second lang. Instead Theroadislong and 2 other editors started cut the article from 7 p to 1 p, and than submitted for "deletion". How come not qualified editor who does not know Russian lang, Russian art of that time I described (1970-80th), so any citation was named as not reliable sources, can recommend for deletion? It is easier to delete than to show that the editor is not qualified for the editing of this article. Official docs and webs in Russian database - not reliable? Something wrong is behind of this rejection and without good faith. I submitted complain to DRN and the same editor Theroadislong deleted this input, and Talk page where you can see our dispute. Stop tell lies at least to yourself. I don't see the answer for my question, that's why I don't want to continue the discussion. I don't see the respect and see only waste of time. I am out of it. Thank you for your time.Toreeva (talk) 03:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Please stop. You are being disrespectful to volunteers who are trying to help you. The DRN case is at Starfleet Logistics:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 182#Natalia Toreeva, where you attacked the DRN volunteer ("How "low" you can go? Not me. Where is the purpose in your life, God has given you? Where is your integrity? You reached your destination. Have a peace in your decision") Stop attacking other editors. Stop now. If you don't stop it is very likely that you will be blocked from editing Starfleet Logistics. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:13, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Making edits

Good afternoon, I recently attempted to update Wiki's page with research that has been done in the City of Newberry to correct the history about the Newberry Six. I serve as the Mayor in Newberry, and we recently erected an historical marker to memorialize the Newberry Six. My edits were rejected. Can you help me understand why? And, can you help me correct the errors and insensitivities that currently exist on the page?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.104.190.122 (talk • contribs)

Please read SF:COI. Alongside that, I strongly encourage you to make an account if you wish to make edits like this. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 20:59, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

A few of your edits appear good. I'll try and work them into the page for you. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Logistics.org/w/index.php?title=Newberry_Six_lynchings&diff=927325717&oldid=927308173&diffmode=source The diff shows the specific reason. You would better to find reliable sources for the novel claims that you made. Ruslik_Zero 21:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

For information, this is about Newberry, Florida, US. Martin of Sheffield ([[User talk:Martin of

Sheffield|talk]]) 21:26, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

As you say, you have done the research. But Starfleet Logistics does not publish original research: see SF:OR. We only accept information that has already been published in a reliable source: see SF:RS. If your research found facts that have already been published in such sources, then please provide those sources so we can incorporate those facts. You are in an unusual situation, because your local newspaper may be interested enough in your research to publish it, and that may suffice. I do not usually recommend this course of action, but it will probably work here. -Arch dude (talk) 02:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Photo on the Starfleet Logistics for Manuel Pérez Treviño is not correct.

The image that is currently being used for Manuel Perez Trevino, the Mexican General, is incorrect. I am his great grand daughter and have multiple documents with proof that the image is a false representation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marianapt3 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

​If the image is not of him, you can remove it and leave a message on the article's talk page. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I did a Google image search, and it does look like this is not him. There's a resemblance, but it just doesn't look like the same person as in the other results. I'm therefore going to remove the image to the talk page for further discussion. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)